Neverkusen vs Galácticos w/ Eric Bruehl & Kiyan Sobhani

Having finished runners-up more times than anybody in Leverkusen cared to remember, Bayer 04 had claimed the undesirable moniker of “Neverkusen”. Playing at times the best football in the country the side ultimately always fell short in collecting silverware. In 2001/02 they lost the Bundesliga title race on the last matchday. A week later they fell to Schalke in the Cup final. Another four days later another defeat in the Champions League final would forever cement their place in footballing lore as nearly men.

Their opponents at Hampden Park faced their own bit of pressure. Having delivered two CL trophies to Madrid within three years club president Lorenzo Sanz was nonetheless voted out of power. New guy Florentino Perez wasted no time by ushering in the Galácticos era at Real, bringing in Luis Figo from Barcelona and, in 2001, Zinedine Zidane from Juventus. For all the money spent they travelled to Glasgow empty handed having finished third in La Liga and losing to Deportivo La Coruna in the Copa final.

Guests!

This episode has been some time in the making but it turned into our biggest, baddest, and likely best episode yet. In large part that is due to our awesome guests:

Minutes for the different parts below if you want to jump to a particular guest or topic:

  • 0:01:20 PART 1 talking about works teams in Germany, and Leverkusen’s club history
  • 0:35:15 PART 2 (with Eric) talking about Bayer Leverkusen in the late 90s / early 00s, Toppmöller, and the origin of “Neverkusen”
  • 1:21:45 PART 3 (with Kiyan) talking about Perez’ election, bringing in Figo & Zidane, and how the “Galacticos” set up on the pitch
  • 1:50:30 PART 4 talking about the Champions League season 2001/02 & the final in detail
  • 2:58:10 PART 5 (with Eric) talking about the immediate & long term aftermath of the final, and what ails Bayer Leverkusen in 2017

Also check out our previous episodes on Real Madrid:

 

Real Madrid vs Valencia CF, Copa del Rey Final 1979

Simplicity is king, especially in a football cup format. Domestic cup competitions owe their mythos to minnows slaying giants, maybe even going on a run through multiple stages. The best formats encourage such runs: no staggered entries, no seeding, no replays. On a given night any team should be able to advance against opposition from a higher flight if luck favours them. An elegant system.

The Copa del Rey in 1978/79 ticks some of those boxes. It seems teams of the same flight would join the competition at different stages. Byes were handed out in the middle of the competition. Return legs reduced the chances for upsets. By the time teams reached the final they could well have played a dozen matches.

Going by their stature and usual level of success, in 1978/79 it had been a while since Real Madrid and Valencia CF had made it that far in the Copa. Whereas Madrid had won back to back editions in ‘74 and ‘75, Valencia had finished runners-up thrice in a row from ‘70 to ‘72.

Not that the road to the final had been all that easy in ‘78/79. Already in the Round of 64 Real went toe to toe with their city rivals. Atlético would go on to finish third in the league that season, and held Real to two draws. The Merengues prevailed on penalties. Valencia’s toughest test came in the Round of 16 going against holders Barcelona. A timely exit looked all but assured after a 1:4 loss at Camp Nou, only for Valencia to win the second leg at home 4:0. Continue reading

El Príncipe y la Octava, Or: CL Final 1999/2000, Real Madrid vs Valencia CF (S01E08)

At the dawn of the new millennium Fernando Carlos Redondo Neri was at the zenith of his power. Just two years after winning their seventh European Cup, the Argentinian playmaker led Real Madrid once again into the final. For the first time ever two sides from the same country would square off as Valencia CF reached the final in their first ever Champions League season. Could the newcomers usher in a new era or would the old powers remind them of the natural hierarchy?

We’ve re-watched the Champions League final of 1999/2000 and now we’re to talk about it. After a brief trip down memory lane, we focus on the 101 of Valencia’s club history and cover what has been happening in the short time between finals at Madrid (Spoilers: a lot!). We quickly go over the worst format changes to the Champions League, aka the dreaded double group stage, and how the sides reached the final in Paris.

Here are the minutes if you want to jump around:

  • 0:01:30 Recollections of Spanish football in late ’90s
  • 0:08:00 Valencia club history 101: foundation, domestic success in the ’40s, European titles in the late ’70s
  • 0:19:00 Bloated CL format in 1999/2000
  • 0:22:00 Real Madrid’s managerial merry-go-round ’98-’00
  • 0:28:00 The path to the final
  • 0:33:00 Valencia’s home form
  • 0:37:30 Semi-final return leg Real Madrid @ Bayern Munich
  • 0:43:00 ELO & expectations
  • 0:46:45 Line-ups
  • 0:51:00 Opening exchanges, general set-up & approach
  • 1:03:30 A first surge by Madrid draws first blood
  • 1:08:30 Valencia’s lacking response after half-time
  • 1:16:00 McManaman & Raul seal Madrid’s victory
  • 1:24:00 Where did it go wrong for Valencia?
  • 1:28:30 Awards: MOTM, Best hair, viewing recommendation
  • 1:33:00 Off-the-cuff Mount Everest of CL era managers

Awards

  • Man Of The Match: Fernando Redondo, ran the show, untouchable at times
  • Best Hair: Steve McManaman, with honourable mentions to Gaizka Mendieta & Ivan Campo
  • Viewing recommendations: So-so, too lopsided for a ringing endorsement, highlights below worth it for McManaman’s goal alone though