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CL Final 1997/98, Real Madrid vs Juventus; Doping in Football (S01E06.2)

After covering the history of Real Madrid in-depth in Part 1 as well as looking at the 97/98 season and the lead-up to the final, it’s time to actually talk about the match: Juventus are back for a third CL final in a row, having won their first and lost their second. Real Madrid have been waiting 32 years for La Séptima.

Here’s the audio (the arrow in the top right corner gets you an mp3 to download):

Here are the minutes, if you want to jump around:

  • 0:00:00 Intro
  • 0:01:30 What are Elo ratings? And how do they apply in (historical) football?
  • 0:06:30 The eve of the match
  • 0:11:00 Refs, kits, line-ups
  • 0:18:00 Kickoff, frantic start, general approach
  • 0:25:30 Zidane’s influence, penalty to Madrid?
  • 0:30:00 Madrid closer to the opening goal (Raul, Morientes)
  • 0:36:00 Davids vs Seedorf Pt 1, Madrid in command after the break
  • 0:42:15 Juve’s tactical changes & resurgence (Inzaghi twice), but Madrid
  • 0:46:00 Juve dial up the pace, finally throw in Conte
  • 0:51:30 Again no plan B for Juve?
  • 0:55:00 Handbags all around, Davids vs Seedorf Pt 2
  • 1:00:00 Awards & recommendation
  • 1:04:45 Aftermath, Heynckes out, Italian media reaction
  • 1:07:30 Court case against Juve’s medical team & doping in football
  • 1:22:00 Signing off

Awards! Our Man Of The Match went to Fernando Hierro, Best Hair to Antonio Conte. Clarence Seedorf and Edgar Davids earned commemorative plaques for their Outstanding Contribution in Man-to-Man Combat on the field. Case in point:

In the aftermath we covered the Juve doping scandal in detail. (YouTube to follow!) Years after their mid-90s dominance Roma’s former coach Zdeněk Zeman made thinly-veiled accusations that Juve’s success might have been aided by pharmaceuticals of the banned variety. This prompted an investigation, a court case, fines and jail sentences. To find out more, jump to around the 1h07m mark in the episode.

Further reading: In praise of Fernando Hierro, Real Madrid’s complete leader (These Football Times)

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Germany's Bastian Schweinsteiger gets honoured by his teammates after their friendly match with Finland in Moenchengladbach, Germany on August 31, 2016. Photo: Reuters

August 2016 Recap: Deadline Day, Premier League Start, Schweinsteiger Farewell

In a cool hour we talk through the biggest topics of the past month in English & European football, including panic buys on deadline day, positive and negative surprise starts in the Premier League, a quick look at the upcoming group stage in the Champions League and the somewhat underwhelming farewell to one of the greats the past decade has seen.

Soundcloud has the episode for you, stream and/or download:

Here are the minutes:

  • 0:00:00 Intro
  • 0:01:20 Panic buys on deadline day? Are Arsenal getting left behind?
  • 0:06:00 Have the top 3 been tested? Pep’s early influence?
  • 0:11:30 British players abroad? How good is Joe Hart really?
  • 0:16:00 A place for Schweinsteiger? Sissoko a statement buy?
  • 0:21:00 Will It Last? Everton, Hull, Middlesbrough
  • 0:26:15 Too Early to Worry? Arsenal, West Ham, Stoke
  • 0:33:20 How would Everton rank in the Bundesliga? Leverkusen & Gladbach in the CL?
  • 0:40:00 Schweinsteiger farewell, Donnarumma debut
  • 0:45:45 Prediction game standings & punishment; Fantasy update
  • 0:52:30 Movies: Snowpiercer, The Lobster, Star Trek Beyond

And the plugs: Facebook, Twitter & YouTube.

On that note, check out our latest video: How Alfredo Di Stefano Almost Went To Barcelona

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S01E06.1: An Incomplete History of Real Madrid, CL Season 97/98 in Review

Turns out, when you talk about the biggest club in the world of football, you could spend hours on their history. We tried to keep it to a manageable duration but decided to split the episode into two parts again. So with this part you’ll get the Champions League season 1997/98 (format, qualifying, groups, knock-out stage etc), Juve’s and Real’s domestic season and the lead up to the final. And the largest part of the episode is devoted to the Merengues.

In talking about the history of Real Madrid we track the club’s achievements and evolution through the decades by following a lineage of legends: Santiago Bernabéu Yeste, Francisco Gento, Santillana. We touch on the biggest stories and the important players and teams. It’s an “Incomplete History” as we look through the lense of 1998.

Here’s the show on Soundcloud, the little arrow in the top right let’s you download:

And here are the minutes:

  • 0:00:00 Intro & plugs
  • 0:02:20 Culture re-cap, Affleck vs Damon vs DiCaprio
  • 0:11:50 Champions League format 1997/98, Qualifying rounds
  • 0:18:50 Juve’s season (champions of Italy, out in QF of Coppa)
  • 0:24:20 Juve vs Kiev in the CL Quarters & vs Monaco in the Semis
  • 0:29:40 Real the biggest club in the world?
  • 0:32:30 Foundations of the Madrid Foot Ball Club, Santiago Bernabéu Yeste joins
  • 0:39:10 Construction of the Nuevo Estadio Chamartín
  • 0:45:30 The transfer of Alfredo Di Stefano to Real Madrid
  • 0:56:00 Real’s romp through Europe during the late 50s, Francisco Gento and the Ye-Ye
  • 1:02:00 Santillana, Quintra Del Buitre, drought in the early 90s
  • 1:07:45 Spanish league structure 95/96, Fabio Capello’s season at Real
  • 1:11:15 Jupp Heynckes’ coaching career & arrival in Madrid
  • 1:15:30 Real vs Leverkusen in the CL Quarters & vs Dortmund in the Semis

Let us know what you think about the episode, down below in the comments, over on Facebook or via Twitter.

Further reading:

Hilarity before the Champions League semi-final 1997/98 between Real and Dortmund after one of the goals fell over before kick-off; clip off of German TV show years later:

And here’s a full match for you, Real Madrid vs Eintracht Frankfurt in the European Cup final 1960 in front of 127K people in Glasgow:

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Bonus: Premier League 2016/17 Preview & Predictions, Fantasy Football

Nevermind Under-19 Euros, International Champions Cups or Olympics, the Premier League is about to kick off again! We break down the wide open title race in the best league in the world as well as the relegation battle, breakout players of the season and other prop bets; all capped off by some fantasy goodness.

If you want to join our fantasy league, here’s the code: 1325629-331935.

Here are the minutes to the episode:

  • 0:00:00 Intro, hype for the upcoming season, title picture
  • 0:05:00 Tottenham
  • 0:10:30 Manchester City
  • 0:24:15 Manchester United
  • 0:34:30 Chelsea
  • 0:55:00 Leicester City
  • 1:01:00 Liverpool
  • 1:08:30 Picks: champion, top 4 & top goalscorer
  • 1:23:30 Relegation battle, Leicester City?
  • 1:27:45 Crystal Palace, Swansea, Bournemouth
  • 1:33:45 Sunderland, West Brom, Middlesborough
  • 1:39:15 Everton? West Ham?
  • 1:43:20 Burnley, Hull
  • 1:48:00 First manager out, Wenger to re-new?
  • 1:57:30 PFA Young POTY, breakout potential
  • 2:05:30 Lightning Round, Fantasy Football

Our picks for the season:

Frederick Sebastian
Champion (50 pts) Tottenham Chelsea
Top goalscorer (20 pts) Zlatan Ibrahimovic Romelu Lukaku
Relegation (20 pts each) Hull, Sunderland, Middlesborough Hull, Sunderland, Burnley
First manager to leave post (20 pts) Aitor Karanka Francesco Guidolin
PFA Young POTY (moot) Anthony Martial Anthony Martial

Plugs! Give us a like on Facebook, get in touch via Twitter!

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Remix: Incomplete History of Juventus & Borussia Dortmund

Much like the rest of the footballing world, we are gearing up for next season. Production on fresh episodes is underway, but in the meantime we thought it wise to remix parts of our more recent shows. People might have missed it and it really stands on it’s own as well. Also its a bit shorter, so easier to get into than maybe the three hour behemoths.

With this episode you’ll first get our Incomplete history of Juventus, then Borussia Dortmund.

As always you’ll find the mp3 available for download on Soundcloud, and a list of all the other channels here.

Some minutes:

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 02:00 Juventus foundation, first national titles, World Cup winners
  • 09:30 Giampiero Boniperti, 70s dominance
  • 14:00 Heysel disaster, Platini, resurgence under Lippi
  • 21:30 Dortmund foundation, pre WWII history
  • 32:30 Oberliga Westfalen, regional & national championships, Cup Winner’s Cup Winners 1966
  • 39:30 Relegation, financial troubles in the 70s & 80s, resurgence under Hitzfeld

To get in touch, find us on Facebook and/or Twitter.

 

 

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S01E05: CL Final 1996/97, Dortmund vs Juventus

After this delightful foray into present-day football, we once again looked back at past matches. This proved to be a true trip down memory lane. Dortmund and the Bundesliga were naturally closer to us while growing up, while ~’96 is just about the time when we started following football in earnest. Or rather: we understood what we were looking at.

We decided to condense the content a bit more, so as not to split up the episode into multiple parts again. Let us know, if you have a preference either way. [Insert subtle plug for our Facebook fanpage and Twitter account here…]

The topic of discussion is the fifth ever Champions League final, contested between holders Juventus and German champions Dortmund. A good chunk of the first half of the episode is reserved for the BVB club history: from humble beginnings on the Weiße Wiese (white meadow) up until the mid 90s dominance.

As always, the show is available on Soundcloud for download, as well as on iTunes, Stitcher, PlayerFM, your podcast app of choice and YouTube.

Here are the minutes:

  • 0:00:00 Intro
  • 0:03:00 Pop culture re-cap, incl. the best ever sports documentary When We Were Kings
  • 0:10:30 CL qualifiers, Juve’s domestic and international season 96/97, CL QF vs Rosenborg, SF vs Ajax
  • 0:21:00 Foundation of Borussia, ever-changing German league structure and Dortmund’s (lack of) success pre-WWII
  • 0:32:00 Dortmund in the Oberliga Westfalen, their three championships in the 50s & 60s and Cup Winner’s Cup title in ’66
  • 0:39:00 Relegation & financial worries in the 70s & 80s, resurgence under Meier, Hitzfeld
  • 0:51:00 Building a team for the mid 90s, Dortmund domestic season 96/97
  • 1:00:00 Dortmund in the CL 96/97, QF vs Auxerre, SF vs ManUnited (in depth)
  • 1:14:00 Lead-up to the final, line-ups, general set-up
  • 1:34:20 Kick-off, Juve’s attacking rhythm
  • 1:48:00 Riedle’s 1-2-punch
  • 2:00:30 Ricken upstages Del Piero
  • 2:09:15 Awards & Aftermath

Our Man of the Match went to Karl-Heinz Riedle. A first, as we normally shy away from just giving it to the goalscorer, but Riedle turned the game around virtue of his finishing ability, at a moment in the match when it looked almost certain Juve would score and, you know what, just listen to the episode.

Our award for the best hair went to Jörg Heinrich.

Here is the complete match, if you want to re-watch:

Instead of further reading we have a few further viewing recommendations, at least to skip through: